This whole debate saddens me

Posted Dec 2, 2014 17:00 UTC (Tue) by johannbg (guest, #65743)
In reply to: This whole debate saddens me by mchapman
Parent article: The "Devuan" Debian fork

"Distributions are already shipping networkd and resolved in separate packages from systemd-the-init"

Which distribution are that?

This whole debate saddens me

Posted Dec 3, 2014 0:17 UTC (Wed) by mchapman (subscriber, #66589) [Link] (3 responses)

> Which distribution are that?

Ah, you got me.

I was getting confused. I actually had a particular Fedora COPR repository for RHEL 7 in mind: https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/lnykryn/systemd/ . It's currently got networkd in a subpackage. resolved is currently disabled, though as far as I can see there shouldn't be anything stopping it from being put in a subpackage.

This whole debate saddens me

Posted Dec 3, 2014 13:56 UTC (Wed) by johannbg (guest, #65743) [Link] (2 responses)

Zbyszek decides how he indents to maintain systemd in Fedora until someone escalates the packagesplit ( which at is point,after all this time would be a bit silly from my pov ) to FESCo, which in turn would most likely request input from BaseWG ( which probably would go for the smallest core/base footprint which means not split it ) followed by FESCo rule based upon that and his maintainership being overruled and then each WG overule the overule and decide for themselves if they want to split it ( or not ).

Lukáš RHEL 7 and derivatives corp repo that you refer to is only intended to be testing repository of new systemd releases ( I think he's already drowning in backporting patches for the release being shipped in RHEL 7 with RHEL 7 being bound to be stuck on that release for the next 10 years or so ).

This whole debate saddens me

Posted Dec 3, 2014 23:48 UTC (Wed) by mchapman (subscriber, #66589) [Link] (1 responses)

Sure, but that's all kind of irrelevant to this thread.

The context of my earlier post was about the modularisation of systemd, and whether having a shared library for its internal APIs (rather than a source library) would be worth it. The existence of this repository indicates that a shared library isn't even necessary to package systemd's components separately.

This whole debate saddens me

Posted Dec 4, 2014 0:39 UTC (Thu) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

True. Somebody who is interested in it could talk to Fedora maintainer for example and submit a spec file patch. It shouldn't too hard.