Timeline for Can we make this meta site work for mentoring?
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| Aug 25, 2014 at 16:45 | history | edited | Chris Baker | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 25, 2014 at 15:25 | comment | added | JDB | At first glance, this is a bit of a wall of text. I thought about going in to look for particular lines to highlight. Then I realized I'd just have to highlight every line of text... it's so well written, I can't find any one portion of text to highlight above the others. Well done. | |
| Aug 18, 2014 at 12:01 | comment | added | kapa | @SylvainLeroux It depends. If the question meets any of the close vote reasons, then close it without hesitation. Downvote when you see fit. I also feel that there are much more crap than downvoters, sadly, but I expect that to become even worse. I visit the site much less regularly lately (in the web development tags it is too hard to find anything interesting), so I am not a reliable source though. | |
| Aug 18, 2014 at 11:54 | comment | added | Sylvain Leroux | @kapa I will try to cure my niceness. In that optic, what is the appropriate behavior to reject low quality questions: down vote or vote close? That blog and the help tend to encourage down votes. But, I don't see many "negative score questions" these times -- even for "openly neglected" questions (awful formating, or many typos up into the question's title). On the other side, I'm pretty certain to have seen recently several low quality questions with positive score... | |
| Aug 18, 2014 at 11:28 | comment | added | kapa | @SylvainLeroux If you see a low quality question, close it. Emotions don't help here at all. If you feel like, leave a constructive comment. By leaving those questions open, you don't help anyone (not even the OP). So it is not really empathy, you just want to look "nice". | |
| Aug 18, 2014 at 11:24 | comment | added | Sylvain Leroux | @kapa So maybe the barrier to lower is not for "getting help on asking" -- but for closing low quality questions? I'm only a "yearling" here, so I don't probably have enough experience. But I caught myself being hesitant to vote close on low quality question. Like I felled some kind of empathy with the poster: "This question is not terrible, but closing it will discourage any improvement" And, according to the "close vote counter", I'm not probably alone in that case. Maybe too much emotional impact both for the "closer" and the "closee" prevent us (me?) to reject poorly written questions? | |
| Aug 18, 2014 at 11:14 | comment | added | kapa | @SylvainLeroux I see no problem here, and no need for change. People who are willing to improve already get enough help, and I see positive examples every day. Lowering the barrier would be a terrible idea. We should not aim to build a kindergarten here. So much effort wasted... We should concentrate our ideas on how to keep the mob out. That does not sound nice, but only that can help. | |
| Aug 18, 2014 at 11:05 | comment | added | Sylvain Leroux | @kapa "People talk too much about how to mentor people who do not want to be mentored." I agree with that. But how to identify people who wants (deserves?) to be mentored from the others? I have the feeling that requiring an "active" participation of the OP is required somehow to filter out "people who do not want to be mentored" Or maybe add some kind of "challenge"? For example: "Your question has been voted low quality. It will only be visible by moderators (mentors?) for the next 24h. After that delay, it will be either removed or re-opened depending on your edits". | |
| Aug 18, 2014 at 8:39 | comment | added | kapa | I wholeheartedly agree. People talk too much about how to mentor people who do not want to be mentored. I feel like only a few people understand the real problem here. Solutions that are based on misunderstanding the problem will never help, but they might make things worse. | |
| Aug 14, 2014 at 23:02 | history | edited | user456814 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 14, 2014 at 23:01 | comment | added | Chris Baker | Case in point: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/262116/… -- read all the comments from the OP. Why mentor or otherwise intervene in this person's life at all? Why invest anything? We have thousands of users who can ask a coherent question, what value is there to the programming community to bicker with someone about their vague and ultimately useless question? That's the kind of crap I can get on any programming forum on the internet. | |
| Aug 14, 2014 at 22:54 | history | answered | Chris Baker | CC BY-SA 3.0 |